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Jesse Mulligan talks to Graham Hassall and Negar Partow

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Four times, New Zealand has moved from the kid’s table to sit among the world’s most powerful nations as a non-permanent member of the United Nations Security Council. A new book offers insights about how New Zealand’s pledge to deal honestly and impartially won over the world. Jesse Mulligan talked to the book’s editors, Graham Hassall and Negar Partow.

Listen to the full interview on RNZ here.